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Iodine Types

When I first started to research iodine I was very confused about all the different iodine forms and products so I decided to make a page here that runs down the basics.

There two kinds of iodine;

  1. Elemental Iodine, sometimes referred to as molecular or sometimes granular.  It comes as pure crystals which are used when making tinctures and lugol’s solution.
  2. The reduced salts (iodide) Commonly used; potassium iodide, sodium iodide and ammonium iodide

FYI

  • Be sure to pay attention to mcg (micrograms) vs. mg (milligrams) 1000 mcg is 1 mg
  • An iodine stain can be removed using Vitamin C
  • The iodine patch test where you paint on a circle of iodine on your skin and wait to see how long it takes to disappear to see if you need iodine has been proven by the iodine docs to be unreliable.  The factors of humidity and evaporation and other unknowns such as the use of a skin product with vitamin C show that the color staining of the skin cannot be relied upon.  Look to symptoms of iodine deficiency instead, or do the iodine loading test at http://www.hakalalabs.com there is a paper on http://www.optimox.com showing the research on the patch test

Here are some specific Iodine terms that fall into other Iodine categories

Atomodine – See “Detoxified Iodine”
Decolorized Iodine – See “Tincture of Iodine”
Detoxadine – See “Pureodine Process”
Edgar Cayce Iodine – See “Detoxified Iodine”
Heritage – See “Detoxified Iodine”
Hulda Clark See – “Lugol’s – Dr. Hulda Clark’s Modified Version”
Iodides Tincture – See “Tincture of Iodine”
Iodormere – See Standard Process Products
Liquid Iodine Forte – See “Posassium Iodide”
Magnascent – See “Detoxified Iodine”
Nascent – See “Detoxified Iodine”
Pro-KI – See “Potassium Iodide”
Promaline Iodine – See “Standard Process Products”
Pureodine – See “Pureodine Process”
SSKI – See “Potassium Iodide”
Xodine – See “Pureodine Process”

Detoxified Iodine – Edgar Cayce
Atomodine, Nascent, Heritage, Magnascent

Everybody online thinks their version of the Edgar Cayce iodine is best LOL, they also think it is superior to lugol’s.  It is a lot more expensive and some people prefer it for the “energy effect” they get from it.   One woman on the Cure Zone website describes the Cayce versions like this.

There are the two different Cayce readings about iodine. both have a tincture in a beaker suspended in an electrolyte solution and having electricity pass through the solution and create an electromagnetic field around the beaker of tincture. one reading says to do this for an hour or so. that is the detoxified I2. this is a misleading designator, but that is what it is called. the magnascent iodine is made according to another reading that has the tincture suspend in the magnetic field for 24 hours (or more, i am not sure).

Atomidine / Nascent 

Nascent This form of iodine is produced by subjection of a 1 % tincture of iodine to a high electro magnetic field for a given time in order to produce the nascent iodine state. This atomic state and electromagnetic charge is held by the atom until diluted in water and consumed. The iodine being in the atomic state was the reason it was called Atomidine, for Atomic Iodine (1926 to 1935).

One drop of Nascent iodine = RDA of 0.2 mg. If using for additional energy and general improved health take up to 5 drops daily. That would mean only one milligram.

Always take on an empty stomach

Heritage

I found this quote about Heritage which is interesting considering it is made by the Heritage people which is Edgar Cayce’s family, I would think they would be the ultimate authority on the Edgar Cayce method

Heritage – These Iodine’s are produced at 10 amps of resistance for five minutes. These other iodine’s do not produce nor give the same results. Nascent Iodine is more difficult to produce. The time required to get iodine into the nascent state is 15 to 20 minutes at 30 amps with a very limited quantity of iodine. The result is that heat is generated and that must be dissipated in order to have the process continue.

Magnascent

From the makers sounds like it is simple a brand name of Nascent  I do know that Dr. Brownstein had his patient that runs the iodine list on yahoo use this form for someone in her family for a particular issue.  I don’t recall the particulars but everyone in her family is also on Iodoral.

MAGNASCENT ™ Source
The chemical purity of the iodine in MAGNASCENT ™ is greater than or = 99.8%. We are more concerned about the purity than the actual source. Iodine from seaweed may possibly contain impurities found in the ocean such as arsenic, bromine in quantities that are not desirable or healthy.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS
Serving Size: 1 drop One drop = RDA of 0.2 mg
Servings Per Bottle: 480
Packaging: 1-ounce glass bottle
Ingredients
Nascent Iodine in a base of organic grain alcohol.

Recommended: Take on an empty stomach 30 minutes before or 1 hour after meals, medications and/or supplements. Taking it after 4 PM could raise your energy levels and keep you awake at night. It is recommended to take before breakfast, before lunch and then again before 4 PM.
Note: There is a 2 to 3 hour time frame when MAGNASCENT ™ is very active in the body. This is the reason that in the 1930’s, nascent iodine was taken in small doses several times a day, on an empty stomach. We speculate that the body can use this unique iodine best while this energy is available.

Iodine Plus2

This product has the same amount of iodine/iodide per pill as Iodoral with a tiny bit of selenium and vitamin B-2.  60 tablets per bottle.  It is about 25.oo per bottle, the five bottle deal makes it 19.99 per bottle or 33 cents per pill.  Iodoral is typically 18-20 cents per pill.

Iodized salt

There is not much iodine in iodized salt, when I was a child, iodine was also added to breads and baked goods.  We used iodized salt and we had no real bromide or fluoride exposure.  Now though bromide is in baked goods not iodine.  The reality is that 85% of the iodine in a container of iodized salt evaporates in the first 3 weeks after the container is opened.  The salt is refined and processed which makes it unhealthy and many people are told to avoid salt.  All these things make salt a terrible way to get iodine.  You should be only using unrefined salt like Celtic Salt or Redmond’s Real Salt and getting your iodine elsewhere.

Iodoral

Iodoral is a combination of both elemental iodine and potassium iodide in the same ratio as lugol’s solution but it is in pill form.  One pill of the original tablets is 12,5 mg, the pills are made by Optimox corporation started by one of the iodine doctors, Dr. Abraham.  They found that some people had difficulty with an upset stomach with higher doses of lugol’s and developed iodoral to survive the stomach and be used in the intestines.  They come in bottles of 90 or 180.  Since the original iodoral became available there is now also a 50 mg pill, that come sin bottles of 30 or 90.   There is an ongoing study now with lugol’s and iodoral to see if one is more effective than the other.  Most of the people on the iodine list use the iodoral because they simply prefer the ease of taking a pill, the lugol’s solution is cheaper though but tastes bad to many. 

The docs recommend taking Iodoral with food.  The tablets are scored making them easy to split if someone wanted to take a 6.25 mg dose

Iogen

Iogen is a new iodine supplement created for fibrocystic breasts.  It contains 3 mg elemental iodine per tablet with selenium, magnesium, mannitol, sorbitol, sodium carbonate, croscarmellose sodium.  They sell a 60 pill bottle for 19.95 saying it is a 60 day supply but then recommend you take 6 mg (2 pills) which would make it a 30 day supply.  They claim it is an introductory offer that is a 70% discount.  So it is massively overpriced even at the current price.  It contains ingredients that are not necessary just so it can be patented .  They also try and claim that it is safe because it is elemental iodine not potassium iodide.  Potassium iodide has been used safely in  gram size doses for a long time.  It is the classic our iodine is good and everyone else’s iodine is dangerous marketing campaign that charges extremely high prices for low dose of iodine.

Iosol

Is  iodine from kelp and ammonium iodide in glycerin.  It  has been used since 1945.  I don’t know any more about it than that.  some people feel iosol functions better in the body because they believe that potassium iodide congests the thyroid.  Everything I have read indicates that potassium iodide is the preferred form for the thyroid.  The studies that suggest it congests the thyroid are the same flawed studies that suggest that too much iodine causes Hashimoto’s thyroiditis which has already been disproven.  Being glycerin based I would think Iosol would be a good alternative for use on the skin in sensitive areas. 

One drop is 1.8 mg of iodine.

The company does make a version specifically for skin but it does not specify the amount of iodine per drop for the skin version.

Kelp – Seaweed

Kelp is the most common iodine supplement and it is in all the health food stores.  Most kelp is very low dose iodine in the micrograms close to the RDA.  The RDA is very low and only takes into account the amount of iodine needed daily to avoid goiter.  Another  issue with kelp though is that it is very hard to find kelp that is not contaminated with arsenic.  Kelp is naturally very high in bromide as well so any iodine you are taking in may in essence be getting canceled out by the bromide in the same supplement.

Dr. Brice E. Vickery makes a kelp sourced product if that is what you really want that is at a dose that is more compatible with the iodine protocol.  (3 capsules is 12 mg)  It is called Vickery Sea Plant Minerals http://www.supernutrient.com/iodine/index.php

Contamination is also a big issue with seaweed.  You may be able to find a seaweed sourced iodine in a larger dose than kelp. 

Lugol’s Solution

Lugol’s solution is the most common form of iodine supplement, it has been in use since the 1829.  There is an incredible amount of information that has been written on the use of Lugol’s over this time.  When the iodine doctors started their research they used lugol’s and eventually Dr. Abraham developed Iodoral (see below)

Effective August 1, 2007, the DEA now regulates Lugol’s solution (and, in fact, all iodine solutions containing greater than 2.2% iodine) as a List I precursor because it may potentially be used in the illicit production of methamphetamine.

A 5% solution is the highest percentage that can be sold under federal law in the United States  You can only buy one ounce of this percentage. California only allows a 2% solution to be sold.  The 2% solution is available in larger sizes and the number of bottles you can purchase are not limited,  Some other countries have laws that allow higher percentages.

Most people take lugol’s in water.  You can take it in juice but you need to be aware that if it is  a juice high in vitamin C that the elemental iodine will be transformed into iodide by the Vitamin C.  Many people paint on lugol’s especially those with breast cancer.  Some prefer this method to get the iodine to a specific area of the body.  Some iodine will be lost by evaporation and so forth so you can’t accurately know your dose with trans-dermal application alone.  For that reason most of us take a specific internal dose then paint on lugol’s, provodone, or tincture of iodine, in addition to that dose if we have a specific reason.

Lugol’s Dosing

  • 2% solution 2.5 mg per drop (5 drops for 12.5 mg equal to one iodoral pill)
  • 5% solution 6.25 mg per drop (2 drops to equal one iodoral pill)
  • 7% solution 8.75 mg per drop
  • 15% solution 18.75 mg per drop

What exactly is Lugol’s?

from Wikipedia

Lugol’s iodine, also known as Lugol’s solution, first made in 1829, is a solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol’s iodine solution is often used as an antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests .

Lugol’s solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol’s solution contains no alcohol.

Other names for Lugol’s solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BP.

Lugol’s was often used in the treatment of gout. It was also used at one time as a first line treatment for severe hypothyroidism due to iodine deficiency in adults. It was used by the Polish government in 1986, after the Chernobyl disaster to replace and block any intake of radioactive iodine131[2].

Historically, Lugol’s iodine solution has been widely available and used for a number of health problems with some precautions.[3] Lugol’s is sometimes prescribed in a variety of alternative medical treatments.[4][5]

Lugol’s – Dr. Hulda Clark’s Modified Version

Dr. Clark believed in making your own lugol’s solution because she thought manufactued lugol’s may be contaminated with propyl alcohol.  Since lugol’s is water based not a tincture which is alcohol based I am not sure where that concern originates.  Dr. Clark also felt it was hard to find a source of potassium iodide to make lugol’s solution that she was comfortable with the quality of the product.  I have no idea what her concerns were but she chose to use a recipe for a modified lugol’s solution that replaced the potassium iodide with sodium iodide.  Here are the ingredients for her version

Ingredients: 1 fluid oz. water, 1.18 gm sodium iodide, 0.59 gm granular iodine (890mcg Iodine in ½ drop). Packed in a clear HDPE bottle, dropper included. Store at room temperature.

HDPE ( High-density polyethylene) is a plastic bottle.  Personally I don’t think any kind of medicinal like lugol’s or an herb tincture for example should be in anything other than a glass bottle.

Potassium Iodate (KI03)

This a form of iodine used by some manufacturers of nuclear protection pills

http://www.nukepills.com/potassium-iodate-vs-potassium-iodide.html

Several internet-based companies have been marketing potassium iodate (KIO3) for radiation protection in place of potassium iodide (KI).  Though the names are similar, the products are very different, and the US Food and Drug Administration has expressed serious concerns about the safety and effectiveness of iodate, and the fact that its manufacturers are not in conformity with FDA rules to assure safety, quality and purity of the product.  Although the FDA has been successful at removing most iodate products from store shelves, iodate can still be found on the internet and is falsely claimed to be FDA approved on the Wikipedia website. Wikipedia unwittingly allows dosage charts and other false claims concerning this unapproved drug to be posted by sellers of iodate who edit the page.

clip_image001 View FDA warning letter to seller of Potassium Iodate

     FDA’s actions are based on the documented pharmacological advantages of Potassium Iodide (KI) compared to Potassium Iodate (KIO3) for thyroid blocking in a radiation emergency. 

     First, from the standpoint of safety and side effects, there is no question that potassium iodide (KI) is superior.  It has been studied for over 100 years and used as a pediatric cough-cold medicine at much larger doses over this time with hardly any problems.  In fact, the FDA has concluded that for use among the general population, there are “not sufficient grounds from which to conclude, or even to suggest, a significant and quantifiable proportion of serious reactions.”  (Symposium on Health Aspects of Nuclear Power Plant Incidents: Recommendations on the Use of Potassium Iodide: An FDA Update; April, 1983)  The expected frequency of adverse reactions to KI in doses needed for thyroid blocking is as low as 1 in 10 million, and these are almost always mild and fully reversible.

     But the same cannot be said of iodate which is far more likely to cause problems.  This was noted by the World Health Organization and International Atomic Energy Agency in their working document (entitled "Guidelines for Stable Iodine Prophylaxis Following Nuclear Accidents," dated 10/19/98) in which they compared iodide and iodate, and concluded that “Potassium iodide (KI) is the preferred alternative, since potassium iodate (KIO3) has the disadvantage of being a stronger intestinal irritant (see page 17)."  In an radiation emergency where millions of people might be required to take thyroid blocking action, the problematic side effects of iodate could be significant.

     Secondly, potassium iodide is also superior from an “effectiveness” standpoint.  Iodide breaks down and is absorbed by the body much faster and more thoroughly compared to iodate.  This was pointed out by the US National Council on Radiation Protection and in the December 15, 1978 Federal Register monograph from the US FDA which noted, "a number of factors were considered in choosing iodide (and specifically potassium iodide) over other agents such as…iodate.  These factors included the degree of blocking achieved, the rapidity on onset of the blocking effect, the duration of the blocking effect, and the safety of the blocking agent."  The blocking effectiveness of potassium iodide was called “almost complete.”  It was for these reasons that the FDA called iodide the "most suitable" product for radiation protection, and has never approved any iodate product for thyroid blocking use.

Potassium Iodide – SSKI

The common pill form of potassium iodide is available everywhere for protection in a nuclear emergency.  The liquid form is called SSKI (Super Saturated Iodide Solution).  The thyroid prefers potassium iodide and will take what it wants first before the rest of the body gets anything.  Other parts of the body such as the breasts and prostate like the elemental iodine which is why the iodine docs use lugol’s and iodoral instead of SSKI.   Potassium iodide has been used in large doses (like grams vs. milligrams) as an antifungal.  Potassium iodide has been used safely in doses as high as 6 grams without side effects.  It is primarily the elemental iodine that people are afraid of although the more research done, the more that fear seemed to be overblown.  What were once thought of as iodine toxicity now appear to be bromide toxicity as the iodine forces the bromide out of the body.  If you have a lot of fear, starting with some potassium iodide alone may be a possibility for you.

Liquid Iodine Forte is potassium iodide and supplies the tiny dose of 150 mcg of iodine per drop

Source Naturals Potassium Iodide this supplement company makes a potassium iodide pill that is 32.5 mg per pill and comes in bottles of 60, 120 and 240.

Pro-KI is a product that is 200 pills per bottle – 65 mg each

From Wikipedia

Potassium iodide is used medicinally in tablets, usually containing 130 mg of KI, or as a "saturated solution of potassium iodide" (SSKI) which in the U.S.P. generic formulation contains 1000 mg of KI per mL (or 500 mg KI in 10 drops, assumed to be 0.5 mL). [2]

Radiation protection

Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, a saturated solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5 million children and 7 million adults in Poland[9] as a prophylactic measure against accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroid gland.

Potassium iodide was also approved in 1982 by the US FDA to protect the thyroid glands from radioactive iodine. In the event of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or fallout from a nuclear bomb, several volatile fission product radionuclides may be released. 131I is a common fission by-product and is particularly dangerous as the body concentrates it in the thyroid gland, which may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a source of stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested 131I tends to be excreted. Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiation poisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirty bombs that produce radionuclides other than isotopes of iodine. In case of a nuclear emergency, iodine used for the cleaning of wounds should not be ingested.

Provodone / Betadine

This is the iodine you will find in first aid kits and in your local grocery or drug store.  This form is also used in hospitals in different strengths.  My mom, a nurse of 50 years recalls that Lugol’s was used and she can’t recall exactly when they switched over to this form.  Although the below from Wikipedia says it is available in 9 to 12% available iodine the bottle in my bathroom says it is a 10% solution with only 1% available iodine. Not for internal use.

From Wikipedia

Povidone-iodine (PVP-I) is a stable chemical complex of polyvinylpyrrolidone (povidone, PVP) and elemental iodine. It contains from 9.0% to 12.0% available iodine, calculated on a dry basis[1].

This unique complex was discovered at the Industrial Toxicology Laboratories in Philadelphia by H. A. Shelanski and M. V. Shelanski[2]. They carried out invitro tests to demonstrate antibacterial activity, and found that the complex was less toxic than tincture of iodine in mice. Human clinical trials showed the product to be superior to other iodine formulations.[3]

It was first sold in 1955, and has since become the universally preferred iodine disinfectant. [3]

Standard Process Products
Promaline Iodine & Iodormere

Promaline, Introduced in 1952, this is a pill form of iodine that is 3 mg iodine and 20 mg calcium.  Promaline iodine is bound to zein a  protein derived from corn.  The term promaline refers to this protein or similar protein in the seeds of wheat, rye or other grains.  Anyone with a corn allergy therefore should avoid this product.  The literature does not specify if the iodine is elemental iodine but since it doesn’t say potassium iodide I guess we have to assume it is elemental.  Here is the company’s fact sheet about the product.

Many people like the dose of this product and that it is in pill form because they want to raise their dosage very gradually and the 3 mg pills make that very easy.  The down side is that when you do get up to a high dose it is a lot of pills.  Also this product does not have the combination of potassium iodide and elemental iodine that is the basis of the current iodine research.

http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=155&filename=/Public/Lit/TabSheets/prolamineiodine6930.pdf

Iodormere introduced in 1964 is 200 micrograms of promaline iodine

Standard process also makes other products with iodine:

· Trace Minerals B-12 has 145 micrograms of iodine.

· Cataplex F tablets have 95 mcg iodine

Tincture of Iodine

Tincture of iodine is alcohol based.  Unlike the formula from Wikipedia below I have a tincture of iodine referred to as decolorized iodine or iodides tincture that is potassium iodide and ammonium iodide.  Sometimes this is referred to by the old timers as white iodine.  It can be used on the skin to treat a mole or something of this nature but it can be irritating with an alcohol base.  It should not be taken internally.  It is an old folk remedy for fingernails.  The use was to put it on the fingernails every day for a week then once or twice a week thereafter.  It has helped my fingernails and of course it doesn’t stain.  I did noticed when I put some on a spot on my face that there is something in my proactiv solution that I use for acne that will turn it orange if I use them at the same time.  Now I am more likely to just use lugol’s or povodone on the face at night and if any staining is left in the morning just wipe it down with Vitamin C.

I got my decolorized iodine at Wal-Mart, but they had it behind the prescription counter and I had to ask for it even though no prescription is required.

From Wikipedia

Tincture of iodine is a disinfectant, usually 2-7% potassium iodide or sodium iodide, and elemental iodine, dissolved in a mixture of ethanol and water. As in the case of Lugol’s iodine, the role of iodide and water in the solution is to increase the solubility of the elemental iodine, by turning it to the soluble triiodide anion I3-. However, since iodine has moderate solubility in ethanol, it is also assisted by this solvent directly.

USP Tincture of Iodine is defined in the U.S. National Formulary (NF) as containing in each 100 mL, 1.8 to 2.2 grams of iodine, and 2.1 to 2.6 grams of sodium iodide. Alcohol is 50 ml and the balance is purified Water.

USP Strong Iodine Tincture is defined in the NF as containing in each 100 mL, 6.8 to 7.5 gram of iodine, and 4.7 to 5.5 gram of potassium iodide. Purified water is 50 mL and the balance is alcohol.

Tri-Iodine

Tri-iodine, made by a company called EuroPharma, are capsules of iodine that are comprised of 5 mg elemental iodine, 5 mg sodium iodide and 2.5  mg potassium iodide.  Each capsule is 12.5 mg. total iodine  They also make a version that is 6.25 mg per capsule.  The company doesn’t offer any information in relation to why they chose sodium iodide as the primary iodide in this product, but the total elemental iodine to iodide ratio is the same os lugol’s or Iodoral.

Pureodine Process
Detoxadine -  Xodine

This product appears to be a claimed improvement over the Cayce process but glycerin based like Iosol.  The term pureodine is the nanocolloidal process used to make it.  It is not a typical tincture that they start the process with because it is elemental iodine only, no iodides.  The Detoxodine version has 898 mcg per drop.   They claim higher uptake of iodine, but at less then 1 mg per drop that won’t help much.  It’s promotion is typical of these types of tinctures they all use the “we are the best” kind of marketing and they cost way too much, which they always say is because of their state the art process.  If indeed they provide greater iodine uptake it may still be cheaper to use regular iodine preparations and take more of them.

¿ Use of Iodine in mainstream medicine ¿

RAI

Radioactive iodine treatment used for killing thyroid cells in hyperthyroid situations and used for iodine uptake scans to diagnose thyroid problems.  Many believe that the RAI treatments they received caused cancer later. Radioactive iodine uptake (RAIU) is a test of thyroid function. It measures how much radioactive iodine is taken up by the thyroid gland in a given time period.  It is my perspective that radiation is never good and I chose NOT to allow RAIU to be done on my  thyroid.  They claim there are no side effects and that it is safe and then go on to tell you how to protect your family from the radiation you will be emitting!

Radioactive iodine (I-131) is an isotope created from iodine to emit radiation for medical use. When a small dose of I-131 is swallowed, it is absorbed into the bloodstream in the gastrointestinal (GI) tract and concentrated from the blood by the thyroid gland, where it begins destroying the gland’s cells. http://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/info.cfm?PG=radioiodine

Amiodarone

Amiodarone is a prescription drug for irregular heart beat. its iodine content is (37.3% by weight), There are many complications to the thyroid using this drug.  Dr. Abraham discusses the issues with this drug in this paper.

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-07/IOD_07.htm

74 Comments leave one →
  1. freebiri permalink
    February 13, 2010 8:36 pm

    I was looking for info to find out total iodine per bottle of 1 oz 2% Lugol’s.
    Even though the info I need is not here, this is the best webpage I’ve found about available iodine products.

    Thank you very much.

  2. February 13, 2010 11:25 pm

    I have a 5% that is guaranteed 3500 mg per ounce, but if you go by 600 drops per ounce, and the standard 6.25 mg per drop for 5% it should be 3750 for 5% so 2 % should be about 1500 mg for one ounce

  3. James Dolvin permalink
    May 22, 2010 6:02 pm

    Great Info on Iodine . Very informative !

  4. Phoebe permalink
    July 20, 2010 3:17 pm

    Fabulously informative article. Thank you.

  5. Sarah permalink
    February 11, 2011 4:12 pm

    Thanks for sharing your site.. I am just learning about iodine protocol and your site is very informative. I appreciate that you assimilate a lot of loose info I have found online but is often conflicting.

    Best regards,
    Sarah

  6. February 13, 2011 11:30 pm

    If you feel the need to protect your thyroid in case of a release of nuclear radiation from Exelon’s Limerick Generating Station, free distribution of potassium iodide (chemical symbol: KI) tablets continues today by the Pennsylvania Department of Health to those who live within 10 miles of the plant.

    • February 14, 2011 1:13 pm

      Complete with a link to your compnay which sells such things as Methyl Iodide a highly toxic pesticide used on strawberries! Somehow it is hard to beleive that you really care about what would happen to anyone within 10 miles of a nuclear reactor but I suppose it is good PR under the circumstances.

  7. Cathy permalink
    March 14, 2011 7:57 am

    Thanks very much for sharing your informative site. What do you use? In light of the reactor melt down in Japan what would you suggest? Just potassium iodide or Lugols solution?

    • Anonymouse permalink
      February 7, 2014 12:37 am

      Radioactive iodine has a very short half life compared with other radioactive nuclides (about 8 days). As the article suggests potassium iodide will be taken up preferentially by the thyroid gland, but other tissues which take up iodine (particularly breast tissue) may also be at risk so lugols might be better.

      Also, suppliments like calcium, magnesium and iron are all worth taking if you’re in a fallout area, since these are nutrients for which various radioactive nuclides can “trick” the body into believing they are….and ones that stick around for much longer (like uranium, plutonium, etc.)

      I’d look into the work of Dr. Chris Busby for more information about this. He’s a big advocate of calcium supplementation in light of nuclear accidents. Also iron being one of the only elements that can pass through to the placenta of a growing fetus is vulnerable to exposures because of (I believe uranium) being an iron analogue. Dr Helen Caldicott…a pediatrician and long-time anti-nuclear advocate has spoken about this.

      I hope this is helpful.

  8. March 14, 2011 1:05 pm

    I use Iodoral myself I find it to be the easiest. Although sometimes I also paint a mixture of 5% lugols and betadyne. In terms of a nuclear emergency they normally give out Potassium iodide in the dose of 130 mg per day for 14 days. That is the form the thyroid uses.

    So if you were to use lugol’s you would need to have the equivalent amount of potassium iodide which would be 228 mg of lugol’s per day (19 drops of a 5% solution, most people have 2%) which would amount to 133 mg of potassium iodide along with 95 mg of elemental iodine. So while it certainly is doable if you have lugol’s available in that situation it may be more practical to have the potassium iodide alone available if you think you could ever find yourself in a nuclear emergency.

    Another consideration is of course that at those high doses many people not already on the iodine protocol would in those 14 days experience bromide detoxing and would feel much better with the salt loading and companion nutrients to get through it.

  9. Colleen Hindson permalink
    March 17, 2011 1:57 pm

    I have been taking Ammonium Iodide, prescribed by my doctor, for thyroid support. I have been trying to find any information on its protective effects against radiation compared to Potassium Iodide, but cannot find any info. Do you know if Ammonium Iodide provides any protection?

  10. March 17, 2011 2:26 pm

    The body converts elemental iodine into potassium iodide for the thyroid’s use if it does not have enough potassium iodide. I think it can do that with ammonium iodide but I have never seen a lot of research about the ammonium iodide in relation to that. The biggest concern in terms of protecting the thyroid in a radiation emergency is the dose. The ammonium iodide products are likely to be doses in the micrograms (mcg) when you need milligrams (mg). 130 mg a day for an adult. If you are in a real emergency situation you also don’t want your body to have to convert the iodine type, you need the protection immediately. So it is best to have potassium iodide.

    In general any type of iodine supplementation on a regular basis puts you in a better position as your body will build up iodine to saturation over time with high enough doses. For the thyroid though that general daily dose to maintain the thyroid close to maximum saturation is 13 mg / day according to the iodine docs. Most supplements are in mcg doses. So even at this 13 mg dose the rest of the body’s iodine receptors like those in the breast could still take in radioactive iodine that could cause issues years later.

  11. November 18, 2011 5:19 am

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  12. Darrell permalink
    May 8, 2012 7:00 am

    Does “magnesium iodide” have any health uses? I read that it has a few commercial (industrial?) applications. For all I know it could be toxic. I can’t help but wonder about it since magnesium in chloride form and iodine have great things said about them. .

  13. Kevin permalink
    August 8, 2012 8:19 pm

    One of the Reasons Iodine is hard to find is that the DEA has labeled Iodine a level 1 substance to be monitored, Putting several Water purification businesses under.

  14. Alanna Nogowski permalink
    August 8, 2012 10:30 pm

    Iodine supplements are great specially for those people who have thyroid issues. I wont prefer taking extra seafoods instead of iodine supplements. “‘`*`

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  15. Vital permalink
    August 23, 2012 1:42 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine_in_biology#Extrathyroidal_iodine:

    “… 15–20 mg of iodine is concentrated in thyroid tissue and hormones, but 70% of the body’s iodine is distributed in other tissues, including mammary glands, eyes, gastric mucosa, the cervix, and salivary glands. In the cells of these tissues iodide enters directly by sodium-iodide symporter (NIS)…”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html:

    “… Studies done to date indicate that the best iodine supplement is one that includes molecular iodine (I2), which breast tissue prefers…”

    So, whenever it reads “Iodine” on a supplement label, it is always elemental-, molecular- or granular iodine (I2)?

    • August 23, 2012 7:08 pm

      A label should specify iodine or potassium iodide or both but if ever in doubt always ask because not all manufacturers are legit or responsible! Some products have ammonium iodide for example which is used in tincture of iodine but you do not want to take that internally. The term iodine by itself should by a manufacturer mean elemental iodine. Responsible manufacturers using more than one form of iodine will list them with the percentages of each. Often times with a multivitamin for example it may just say “iodine 150 mcg” or something of that nature and it may be potassium iodide not elemental iodine. You can always be certain that a true lugol’s solution or iodoral have both potassium iodine and elemental iodine which the iodine doctors prefer as the body uses both.

      • Vital permalink
        August 24, 2012 2:38 am

        Many thanks Tatiacha!
        I discovered only one manufacturer, who states “molecular iodine” on the labels, and none stating “elemental”-, “granular”- or “I2″ iodine.
        I suppose these, as well as the iodides, are chemically pure inorganic forms(?).
        What about when it reads “colloidal Iodine”, “from kelp” and/or other
        seaweeds – are these chemically purified, and are these more- or less bio-available, resp. absorbable?

  16. August 24, 2012 10:48 am

    It would be rare for them to use the words molecular or elemental it would normally say for example lugols…potassium iodide, iodine, water. Colloidal would be using an electrical charge like they use with colloidal silver. Some people swear by the energy they get from those but overall amounts of iodine are tiny,. When a label reads iodine from kelp it usually means that you are talking the kelp as a whole and they are telling you how much iodine is in the amount of kelp you are taking. It is too bad when it comes to kelp you are also getting bromide and fluoride in high enough quantities that you may not benefit from the iodine at all. It is likely someone out there is extracting iodine from kelp as well by some method that’s why sometimes all you can do is send emails to the manufactures with questions about exactly what is or is not in their product. Ultimately there are very few products that deal in milligrams (mg) vs micrograms mcg and if you really need iodine then mcg is not going to do anything for you. At the health food stores I have been in the last several years they have started to carry more iodine products but all of them were the microgram dose levels. A milligram dose product is for many of us only available online. For me when money is tight I will use the liquid lugol’s solution and the cheapest really is a variety by Kent Marine made for fish tanks at around 10 bucks for a 1 oz bottle.

  17. Vital permalink
    August 25, 2012 10:15 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine#Characteristics:

    “… , the solubility of elemental iodine in water can be increased by the addition of potassium iodide. The molecular iodine reacts reversibly with the negative ion, generating the triiodide anion I3− in equilibrium, which is soluble in water…”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine#Disinfectant_and_water_treatment

    “… Lugol’s iodine: iodine and iodide in water alone, forming mostly triiodide. Unlike tincture of iodine, Lugol’s has a minimized amount of the free iodine (I2) component.”
    So, i.e. the declared iodine and iodide is only what is put in it – what is taken (out of it) is mostly triiodide.
    I wonder whether, in order to supply the body with iodine and potassium iodide, does it need to be taken separately, in a dry form or in a non-aqueous solution?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine#Solubility

    “…, iodine is highly soluble in nonpolar organic solvents, including ethanol (20.5 g/100 ml at 15 °C, 21.43 g/100 ml at 25 °C), …”.

    • August 25, 2012 10:28 am

      No lugol’s solution has been used successfully since the 1800’s in fact before big pharma took over medicine it was used in hospitals, in surgery and so forth. That’s why looking back there is actually a ton of evidence available about its safety that most modern docs who were never taught about iodine facts know nothing about. My mother has been a nurse almost 60 years and she remembers also lugol’s being a standard in her work and when they first replaced it with no reason. I have never heard of anyone taking iodine crystals dry. Potassium iodide by itself is obviously available in pill form as it is used for radioactive emergencies. I would suggest going to the source of information and reading all the research of the iodine docs at optimox.com you could make yourself crazy with the chemistry aspects on Wikipedia and they often are not even speaking of the human body and what either or both types do within it. The iodine docs specifically deal with human ingestion.

      • Vital permalink
        August 27, 2012 8:22 am

        I am not questioning whether any iodine from Lugol’s is getting at all absorbed.
        It is just about whether the body needs to convert some or most of it, and whether it wouldn’t be better absorbed when iodine and (potassium-) iodide would be taken separately (in diluted liquid solutions).
        I wasn’t hinting at taking iodine crystals dry, which is why I added the quote about their solubility in ethanol.
        But if elemental iodine is poorly soluble in water and in polar organic solvents, are there any nonpolar organic solvents or the like in our digestive systems which make it bio-available if taken in a dry form, like in tablets or capsules?

      • August 27, 2012 12:42 pm

        As far as I know there is no liquid solution or tablets of internal elemental iodine alone. Those kind of detailed chemistry things are really science research not practical application in use of iodine. The tablets (iodoral and I think there are two or three others which have both potassium iodide and iodine) obviously are dry. The iodine docs have always felt that the combination is best. The thyroid specifically will use the potassium iodide and there are some other areas of the body that use that form as well, that research is ongoing. and the body like the breasts will use the elemental iodine. Because the thyroid is so important if you were to get elemental iodine alone from food your body will turn it into potassium iodide for the thyroid. There was a study they were working on I am not sure if it is complete yet testing the iodoral which is coated to bring it farther into the intestinal track, and the liquid lugol’s. They have the same ratio of iodide/iodine. At the time part way through the studies they were having more success with the iodoral as the lugol’s will coat things along the way not as much iodide/iodine gets into the bloodstream was the best guess at the time. So there is a lot of research ongoing some is in relation to humans on a practical level, some in labs maybe dealing with human cells and so forth and of course just all the ongoing uses of iodine in other chemistry settings, having nothing to do with human supplementation or healing. If someone is pursing the possibility of using the iodine protocol for their own health then there are very few definitive answers other than it is clear from years of usage from the 1800s to the 1960s or so, and through the work of the current iodine docs that it is safe to used when done properly, i.e. having sufficient selenium for example. The modern myths and fears about iodine use have been debunked by now thousands of patients of Dr. Abraham & Dr. Brownstein, and many like myself who use the protocol without being one of their patients, I am sure some of the kind of chemistry questions you have were been looked at in depth by Dr. Abraham while he was deciding how to implement the use of iodine with his patients. I wonder if you could arrange an interview with him to discuss these types of questions and record for a podcast or something? The iodne list on yahoo is run by one of Dr. Brownstein’s patients who is now a natural doc. She has looked into many of these things as well but last I knew she was stretched time wise.

  18. Vital permalink
    August 28, 2012 3:24 am

    Again, many thanks Tatiacha!

    Maybe one last thing: I personally really prefer natural sources of nutrients.
    Have you ever come across some studies of supplementation with seaweeds?
    After all, the Japanese are getting their iodine from such foods.
    I wonder whether the effects of long-term intake (years and decades) of chemically isolated iodine/iodide(s) have been observed.

  19. April 27, 2013 11:34 pm

    Thank you for this remarkable outline of a very confusing topic.

  20. Sue permalink
    October 1, 2013 4:03 am

    Can you advise me? I’ve been reading a ton of info about decolorized iodine being applied to the scalp and eyebrows to stimulate hair growth. With so many different types, can you narrow it down to which one would be the best for me to buy? I’m sure one without alcohol would be beneficial, yet I’m still confused!!!

    • October 1, 2013 12:52 pm

      The only Iodine product that is decolorized iodine is Tincture of Iodine (also called Iodine Tincture) and is alcohol based. It is a combination of potassium iodide and ammonium iodide. It does not leave an iodine stain on the skin, although it has an intense smell for a period of a good hour or so because of the ammonium iodide. I bought some at Walmart a couple years ago but it was behind the pharmacy counter and I had to ask for it. It came in a 2 ounce bottle and at the time was about 4.00.

  21. Grace permalink
    October 21, 2013 12:00 am

    Hi Tatiacha. You mentioned that you wouldn’t advise taking ammonium iodine internally. But the brand ‘Iosol’ is intended to be taken internally and it’s ingredients are Iodine and ammonium iodide. I have read so much on other sites too that I think I’m getting confused with conflicting information. I think I remember reading that there isn’t much info out there about ammonium iodide, but that it will be converted by one’s body into potassium iodide as needed…is that correct? Is that kind of like the body needing to convert cyanocobalamin into methylcobalamin (vitamin B-12), before it can be utilized? Is that what is going on with the ammonium iodide? Is that why potassium iodide is preferred? One less step for the body to perform before utilizing it? Or is ammonium iodide harmful in some way?

    • October 21, 2013 11:49 am

      The tincture of iodine with ammonium iodide is made with an alcohol that should not be taken internally. Iosol is made with glycerin. I am not sure what the body does with the ammonium type. It will convert elemental iodine into potassium iodide if it needs potassium iodide. Also taking elemental iodine with vitamin C at the same time of day will cause the elemental iodine to to convert to potassium iodide. It could be the same with ammonium iodine, but I don’t know if it does or not. You’re right, there is just almost no information about ammonium iodine use in the body in the iodine discussions, There must be information out there somewhere since the manufacturers of Iosol and tincture of iodine chose to use it for a reason. :-)

  22. Elaine permalink
    October 29, 2013 8:53 pm

    I am taking syntroid for slow thyroid gland I want to get off the big pharmacy pills ANC take care of my health myself. With all the readings I know that nascent iodine can replace naturally without bad side effects and harmfull effects on the rest of my body. I have ordered the detox amine that dr. Ed group and the health ranger ben Fuchs recommend and guarantee no gmo and all natural…now that I half read this post I am not sure if I ordered the right one. I know that infowars alex jones promotes the protective shield nascent iodine doubble strength and wanted to have your comments on that one…their is also one that dr. Sirius promotes…I am confused…

    • October 29, 2013 10:00 pm

      Nascent is really low dose iodine supplement I am not sure why Alex Jones pushes it. But for both health purposes and nuclear emergency it is not going to do much. Lugol’s and Iodoral are the standard for working with iodine for health. (taking 12.5 to 100 mg of the combines elemetnal iodine/potassium iodide) and in a nuclear situation you need large doses of potassium iodide. alone (130mg a day for an adult for a couple weeks, 5 drops of Nascent is only 1mg). Getting off synthroid usually requires a switch over to armour thyroid with a doc or nurse practitioner that is willing to switch you to that. With the whole iodine protocol some people then do get off thyroid meds altogether, some don’t, but take lower doses of armour. (the natural whole replacement) The process can get complicated depending on what your thyroid problem is. The Iodine list on yahoo has a bunch of people who have done exactly what you would like to do and can offer their experiences, and help with finding a doctor that would help with the process.

  23. November 13, 2013 2:08 pm

    Using Potassium Iodide as opposed to Lugols; will we gain much benefit, if we are iodine deficient, or do we need to take actual Iodine as in Lugols……DD

    • November 13, 2013 3:37 pm

      Absolutely! The thyroid and many other parts of the body prefer Potassium Iodide. The breast tissue and some other areas uses the elemental iodine. Lugol’s has both which is what makes it ideal, but there is much to be gained from Potassium Iodide alone if that is what you have available.

  24. Jackie permalink
    January 7, 2014 8:12 am

    I started taking nascent iodine 4 days ago, unfortunately I didn’t do my research and started taking 6 drops (2694mcg) a day and on day three I experienced upset stomach/stomach pain. I immediately stopped taking it but I’m still experiencing quite painful stomach discomfort, is this normal? Will this ever go away?? Your thoughts would be so greatly appreciated!

    • January 7, 2014 5:06 pm

      That is a tiny amount of iodine and should not be enough to create any reaction, some people don’t do well in the stomach with any kind of liquid iodine though and do better with a buffered pill like Iodoral.

  25. Jes permalink
    January 20, 2014 3:41 pm

    Hi Tatiacha,
    I just started using lugol’s as part of the protocol for my uterine fibroids/cysts (and I even have at least one big polyp) per my alternative practitioner. I am taking the other vitamins/minerals that support it as well. I’ve been surfing the Web to research iodine, and am so happy to come across your site. Thank you so much for making it much more understandable; like you said, it’s kind of confusing with all the different products and amounts available online. Now I’m getting it! I’m excited and hopeful that the iodine can help shrink/get rid of those unwanted growths. All the comments and your replies were also so helpful and informative.

  26. steve permalink
    February 15, 2014 11:42 am

    Hi Tatiacha
    I am taking a lugols mix 20 iodine and 5 iodide in water, can I use it as tincture instead of alcohol, and be able to extract alkoloids from plants that will help with some of the things iodine does,eg displace fluoride’s from the system, or should I just use vinegar. Since I’ve been using this mix I am noticing the difference compared to what it was like before I started using it, so I thought if I could combine the iodine and plant extract it would be a good combination. Thanks for your time and help, I hope I’m not being to simplistic.
    Steve

  27. Tamara Williams permalink
    March 26, 2014 3:06 pm

    Hi there,
    Thank you so much for such a well condensed informative web page! My only constructive criticism is that I saw no information on Thyroco, an alternative supplement sold to correct thyroid impairment for hypothyroidism. I was hoping you might be able to shed some light on this option aswel? Please email me if you do have any opinions on Thyroco.
    Sincerely,
    Tamara Williams.

    • March 26, 2014 8:39 pm

      I haven’t heard of that one but it may have come out in the last couple years since i wrote this, i’ll look into it

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  29. Debbie permalink
    April 9, 2014 8:07 pm

    I have been taking promaline iodine 3 mg tablets for about 60 days. I have noticed that my bruising issues have completely dissappeared. My doctor had said that the bruising was because I was taking an aspirin regimen (but I wasn’t ). Anyway, the bruising is gone.

  30. April 23, 2014 2:29 am

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  32. tnash permalink
    June 11, 2014 12:10 pm

    The iodine patch test where you paint on a circle of iodine on your skin and wait to see how long it takes to disappear..

    A scientist disputed this as a reliable test

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